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Planning Commission Meeting February 12, 2007 Work Session 6:30 p.m. Agenda CALL TO ORDER: APPROVAL OF AGENDA: DISCUSSION: of Agenda items of the regular meeting of the Planning Commission DISCUSSION: of general items ADJOURNMENT: Public Hearing 7:00 p.m. Agenda CALL TO ORDER: PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: APPROVAL OF AGENDA: CALL TO THE PUBLIC: (Note: The Board will not begin any new business after 10:00 p.m.) OPEN
PUBLIC HEARING # 1…
Review of impact
assessment and site plan for an architectural change to a previously
approved site plan located at 7000 Planning
Commission disposition of petition A.
Recommendation regarding impact assessment B.
Disposition regarding site plan OPEN
PUBLIC HEARING #2…Review
of special use, impact assessment and sketch plan for leasing and rental of
truck and trailers, including outdoor storage and display of vehicles and
for the outdoor display, sales, and storage of propane, located at 5670 E.
Grand River, Sec.10, petitioned by Cedar Investments, L.L.C. Planning
Commission disposition of petition A.
Recommendation regarding special use. B.
Recommendation regarding impact assessment C.
Recommendation regarding sketch plan
OPEN
PUBLIC HEARING # 3…
Review of a special use application, site plan and environmental impact
assessment for a 210 foot cellular tower located at Planning
Commission disposition of petition A.
Recommendation regarding special use. B.
Recommendation regarding impact assessment. C.
Recommendation regarding site plan. OPEN
PUBLIC HEARING # 4…Review
of a site plan application, impact assessment and site plan for a 7,000 sq.
ft. retail auto parts store located at 2797 E. Grand River, Sec. 6,
petitioned by WXY Retail Group. (07-07) Planning
Commission disposition of petition A.
Recommendation regarding impact assessment. B.
Recommendation regarding site plan. OPEN
PUBLIC HEARING #5…Review
of a rezoning application, impact assessment, conceptual PUD plan and PUD
agreement to rezone .60 acres located on the south side of Grand River
Avenue, between Lucy Road and Chilson Road, (11-06-100-004) from GCD
(General Commercial District) to RDPUD (Redevelopment Planned Unit
Development) to construct a 5,200 sq. ft. retail/office building located at
2160 E. Grand River, petitioned by William Colley Architect. (07-08) Planning
Commission disposition of petition A.
Recommendation regarding rezoning application B.
Recommendation regarding PUD agreement. C.
Recommendation regarding conceptual PUD plan. D.
Recommendation regarding impact assessment. Administrative
Business: ·
Planners
report presented by LSL Planners ·
Approval
of ·
Member
Discussion Adjournment
WORK
SESSION MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER:
At APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Upon motion by Barbara Figurski and support by James Mortensen, the
agenda was approved as submitted. Motion
carried unanimously. DISCUSSION:
of Agenda items of the regular meeting of the Planning Commission DISCUSSION: of
general items ADJOURNMENT:
The work session of the Genoa Planning Commission was adjourned at PUBLIC
HEARING MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited, followed by a moment of
silence. APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Upon motion by Barbara Figurski and support by James Mortensen, the
agenda was approved as submitted. Motion
carried unanimously. CALL TO THE PUBLIC:
(Note:
The Board will not begin any new business after OPEN
PUBLIC HEARING # 1… Review
of impact assessment and site plan for an architectural change to a
previously approved site plan located at 7000 Petitioner
was present by Paul Esposito. Bill
Johns and Steve Stone, the owners of the property, were present as well.
A color concept drawing was presented pursuant to the Planning
Commission’s previous request. Petitioner
indicates colored block is difficult to obtain right now due to weather
conditions. Petitioner has an
alternative to present – a block that is painted and then sealed.
Petitioner shows materials he proposes to use.
Chairman Pobuda and Jeff Purdy indicate that the Planning Commission
does not generally approve painted surfaces since it does not comply with
architectural requirements. Planning
Commission disposition of petition A. Recommendation regarding impact assessment B. Disposition regarding site plan Motion
by James Mortensen that a recommendation be made to the Township Board
regarding the impact assessment provided at the meeting of Motion
by James Mortensen that the recommendation be made to the Township Board to
adopt the impact assessment, provided the petitioner use either brick or
integrally colored split face block consistent with the color scheme and
elevation presented this evening, subject to review by staff. Support
by Steve Morgan. Motion
carried unanimously. Motion
by James Mortensen that a recommendation be made to the Township Board for
approval of the site plan changes, subject to the following: 1.
The materials
as presented this evening will not be painted, but will be a product with a
natural color in lieu of the brick; 2.
The rendering
presented this evening will become property of the township. Support
by OPEN
PUBLIC HEARING #2…Review of special use, impact assessment and sketch plan for leasing and
rental of truck and trailers, including outdoor storage and display of
vehicles and for the outdoor display, sales, and storage of propane, located
at 5670 E. Grand River, Sec.10, petitioned by Cedar Investments, L.L.C.
Petitioner
present by Robert Akouri and Bill Rains, territorial manager of U-Haul.
Petitioner addresses the Planning Commission’s concerns regarding
parking of vehicles and barriers at the property lines.
Bill
Raines suggests that at maximum, 10 U-Haul trucks could be parked at the
premises. Inventory could be
tracked through the regional office to protect Petitioner from an on-site
inventory that exceeds what the Planning Commission permits.
The trucks are repaired on-site by a mobile mechanic or at the main
repair shop in Chairman
Pobuda discusses the screening issues. Petitioner
has no intent of selling the property that lies between the site and Petitioner
explains that the proposed storage site for the U-Hauls was moved to the
front from the back to camouflage the trucks more easily from the neighbors. Bill
Rains suggests that a “minor” repair would be performed within
forty-eight hours. Jeff
Purdy addresses the screening and whether it is adequate.
He believes that the evergreens could be increased to 1 every 15 feet
along the eastern side of the frontage by the driveway.
The evergreens would be an additional row in front of the existing
evergreens and maples. Petitioner
agrees to do that. Jeff
Purdy asks that the impact assessment be corrected to remove reference to
propane gas sales. Tesha
Humphriss asks for truck lengths, including cabs, in order to calculate
turning radius issues. It would
appear that although this is a private parking lot, there could be issues
with completing turns without backing up.
Tesha Humphriss suggests moving the area east twenty feet.
Tesha Humphriss asks about whether there would be difficulty in
accessing unit “A”. Petitioner
indicates there would not. Planning
Commission disposition of petition A. Recommendation regarding special use. B. Recommendation regarding impact assessment C. Recommendation regarding sketch plan Motion
by James Mortensen that a recommendation be made to the Township Board for
approval of a special use permit to allow Cedar Closet Storage to rent
U-Hauls or similar rental trucks to the general public.
The maximum number of trucks or trailers in any combination shall not
exceed eight at one time in outside parking and repairs to a vehicle that is
inoperative will commence within forty-eight hours of arrival at the site
and repairs on-site shall be restricted to minor repairs generally of a
maintenance type. Support
by Barbara Figurski. Motion carried
unanimously. Motion
by Barbara Figurski to recommend to the Township Board that the impact
assessment be approved subject to the special use permit.
Any mention of gas storage tanks is withdrawn by the petitioner.
Support by James Mortensen. Motion
carried unanimously. Motion
by James Mortensen to recommend to the Township Board approval of the site
plan sketch received by 1.
That four
evergreens with a height of eight feet tall minimally, be added along the
northeastern front parking location; 2.
The parking
row for the truck/trailer rental will be moved twenty feet east for a total
of seventy feet. Support
by OPEN
PUBLIC HEARING # 3…
Review of a special use application,
site plan and environmental impact assessment for a 210 foot cellular tower
located at There
were approximately seventy-five members of the general public present for
this meeting. Ellen
Tenser, Attorney for T-Mobile, Petitioner
indicates that with the County’s plans of going wi-fi, a tower is
extremely beneficial to this area. She
indicates that while a shelter is preferable for the storage of their
equipment at the base of the tower, cabinets will most likely be used. The
new location is 299 feet to the nearest residential property line. This
would take five parking spaces from the church’s parking lot. A concrete
caisson of about six inches serves as the base for the tower.
Petitioner
explains how the tower can be a co-location with other servers.
This tower is designed for four carriers, but there could be a fifth.
The equipment at the base could be 2’ x 2’ or a full brick
shelter. This would depend on
the number of customers they have. This
area would be fenced in for T-Mobile initially and it would be expanded to
allow for other providers later. Petitioner
explains how towers are placed height-wise and distance-wise.
A 100 foot tower will not be sufficient to service the petitioner and
co-locators. The other companies
would then be seeking their own towers.
Petitioner
has co-located on other available towers and has exhausted their ability to
co-locate on other resources and serve their customers. Petitioner
indicates that towers cannot be placed too closely to each other or it would
create cross talk. Tesha
Humphrisss indicates that the radio system that controls water levels on the
tower at Oak Pointe may be affected if it is utilized as a tower, but it is
something that should be looked at. Jeff
Purdy indicates that the tower exceeds the ordinance by 70’ and a variance
would be required. The equipment
shelter should be screened with brick walls. Tesha
Humphrisss indicates that the petitioner has addressed any concerns
satisfactorily. Chairman Pobuda references a letter received by an attorney against the tower. Mark
Mark Baron, 4180 Timberview, Howell. His property is adjacent to and southwest of the church’s parcel. He stresses that the objectors are not interlopers – they’ve raised families here. They have not historically had bad relations with the church. They feel the church wants this tower for commerce and it’s not serving their purposes. The Oak Pointe tower is a quarter of a mile away from the church. Scott Statement, 4190 Timberview, Howell. He is adjacent to Baron’s property. The fire department has not requested a cell tower in this location. He works from home often, carries a blackberry and has no problems with reception. He is an AT&T customer. He requests that maps of other providers’ towers be studied for the purposes of co-location. Bridget Krueger, 4301 Timberview, Howell. She opposes the tower. She believes the church earning a profit while not paying taxes is improper. She has reviewed the zoning maps and growth management plan. She feels this placement is not in keeping with the plan. She believes this is an incompatible land use. She believes this is a nuisance hazard. Doug
Constance, Sandra
Skolnik, Dewey
Thomas, Gottfried Schiller, lives 299 feet from tower. He did a neighborhood door-to-door questioning and found nobody was suffering from cell phone problems. He feels it is irrelevant. Larry
Wilkinson, Kathleen
Wisser, Brent
Smith, 4177 Fred
Novak, David
Shirk, 6435 Havenwood. He lives within a mile and a half of the tower where
there is a black hole for service. He
cannot get an emergency call. He
travels the roads near the church at least once a day.
He cannot reach Donald
Barron, 9200 Blueberry Hill, Howell. He
is a member of Chilson Hills church. He
reads a letter from a Andrew
Smith, 4390 Timberview. He is a
firefighter for Richard
Miller, John Delucca, 4365 Timberview. He requests that the church consider its neighbors. He doesn’t feel that the church is considering the interests of the neighbors. Doug
Wisser, Nancy
Merdzinski, Jan Barrent, 4180 Timberview. She lives in the Schroeder’s home. She supports her neighbors and opposes the tower. Sandra Skolnik addresses the Planning Commission again. She believes the site is a filled portion of the property. Doug
Constance addresses the Planning Commission again.
He is intrigued that the petitioner’s map would seem to indicate no
necessity for Brent Smith addresses the Planning Commission again. He suggests that T-Mobile’s research is inaccurate. He no longer lives in a black hole due to analog versus digital and new equipment advances. He has Cingular service. He suggests complainers get a new provider and that the Board get a study down. Wallis
Kowals, 12385 Wild Kathleen Wisser addresses the Planning Commission again. She indicates people should not talk on cell phones in their cars. She thinks connectivity isn’t a right. She suggests co-location should take care of these issues. George Osborn, 4122 Timberview. He has lived here 30 years. He has Verizon and has no problems. He asks about the parking spaces and Chairman Pobuda addresses that. Mr.
Novak indicates the neighbors vote in downtown Mr. Barent addresses the Planning Commission again and indicates the neighbors weren’t consulted. Chairman Pobuda closes the call to the public. Chairman Pobuda asks petitioner about an umbrella effect. She indicates this is not how it works. She explains that micro cells are reduced sized cells. Thirty to forty would make up one tower. It’s on a 35-40 foot wooden pole, so it doesn’t exceed tree height. This would cause reception for 50 yards in any direction from the utility pole. Petitioner indicates that the Township’s ordinance shows a preference for church property over residential property. The Detroit Edison substation didn’t provide for setbacks. A copy of the Federal Telecommunications Act is provided to each of the commissioners. Chairman Pobuda inquires if there is a numerical survey of subscribers has been done in that area. She indicates that there has not been any performed. There is no service there at this time. James Mortensen suggests that a cell tower is incompatible in residential areas and none have been approved by this Commission. He is opposed to putting a cellular towar in a residential area. Planning
Commission disposition of petition A. Recommendation regarding special use. B. Recommendation regarding impact assessment. C. Recommendation regarding site plan. Motion
by James Mortensen to recommend to the Township Board denial of the special
use permit requested for the reason that it is inconsistent and counter to
section 19.03 of the zoning ordinance and specifically, is incompati9ble
with surrounding area. Support
by Dean Tengle. Motion carried unanimously. OPEN
PUBLIC HEARING # 4…Review
of a site plan application, impact assessment and site plan for a 7,000 sq.
ft. retail auto parts store located at 2797 E. Grand River, Sec. 6,
petitioned by WXY Retail Group. (07-07) Petitioner
present by Andy Andre’ of Wilcox Professional Service, 37987 Interchange
Drive, Farmington Hills, 48835 and Keith Taltow, AHW Consulting, 10191
Meisner, Castco, Michigan. Advanced
Auto is the number two chain of auto supply retail stores in the Country.
There
is an underground detention system to maximize site and a detention basin is
now in the front of the site. That
optimizes storm management and provides for the best location, as have many
other businesses along The
bike path requirements along The
sanitary sewer is in the rear of the property.
Because of the elevation change, the existing residents sit higher.
Because of slope, the building is raised about as high as can be at
this location. Gravity causes a
problem with the depth of where the existing sewer is.
He proposes a small grinder pump.
There are only going to be two bathrooms and not much sewage would be
created. The
petitioner discusses the issues involved with the driveway.
He has met with MDOT and they see his points.
There is an existing driveway and curb cut.
A wider drive is necessary to accommodate delivery trucks. A
photograph of the proposed building (like many of their other buildings) is
provided. The materials are not
brought tonight. Chairman Pobuda
requests that they be presented. Petitioner
shows photographs of the materials and indicates the brick is called
‘Promenade Blend.’ Chairman
Pobuda requests a full material board. Jeff
Purdy lists the items that remain in question.
The drive aisles should be reduced from 26’ to 24’ to leave more
green space. The offset with the
driveway on The
maximum pavement grade is 5% for the Township.
Petitioner’s drive is at 5%. Jeff
Purdy speaks about the requirement for a service drive parallel to Tesha
Humphriss addresses the petitioner and refers to her letter of February 5th.
The drainage and grading has been revised from underground retention.
Petitioner now requests above ground detention in the front of the
site. There is a pond to the
east of the site and Tesha Humphriss believes that one pond would be
visually more pleasing. Perhaps
the property owner to the east would agree to a shared retention pond.
Petitioner would prefer to have their own due to maintenance issues.
Tesha Humphriss thinks a retention pond in back is not a good idea
due to the gravity and drainage issues.
Tesha Humphriss has five outstanding issues with the new plan.
James
Mortensen and Planning
Commission disposition of petition A. Recommendation regarding impact assessment. B. Recommendation regarding site plan. Motion
by James Mortensen to table this matter at petitioner’s request.
Support by Barbara Figurski. Motion
carried unanimously. OPEN
PUBLIC HEARING #5…Review of a rezoning application, impact assessment, conceptual PUD plan
and PUD agreement to rezone .60 acres located on the south side of Grand
River Avenue, between Lucy Road and Chilson Road, (11-06-100-004) from GCD
(General Commercial District) to RDPUD (Redevelopment Planned Unit
Development) to construct a 5,200 sq. ft. retail/office building located at
2160 E. Grand River, petitioned by William Colley Architect. (07-08) James
Mortensen is opposed to begin new business after Bill Colley
present on behalf of the petitioner, John Shurston, Jeff Purdy
reports that setback requirement modifications should be granted.
Given the site conditions, it’s appropriate.
The building should be at the front of the site and parking in the
rear. The adjacent driveway is
owned by Geo and any future extension of the service drive should be kept in
mind. The bike path requirement
should be adhered to, despite topography.
Petitioner agrees, but indicates west of the viaduct could be
problematic. The plan proposes
162% of the minimum parking requirement.
The Planning Commission can approve up to 120%.
Jeff Purdy would prefer to see parking cut back opposed to a
retaining wall. The final site
plan can address lighting, plantings, etc. Tesha
Humphriss recommends a phase 1 environmental assessment be completed.
Petitioner has done phase 1 and phase 2.
Petitioner will submit that to Tesha Humphriss.
Access to this site is challenging and the driveway shown is not
idea, but the best that can be done for this particular site.
Petitioner should address adjacent driveways which should be shown in
the final plans. Underground
detention is proposed and this fits the ordinance.
Public utilities are proposed. Jeff Purdy
indicates that it is preferable to have the PUD and rezoning be connected.
Chairman Pobuda indicates these items need to be worked out with
planner & engineer and come back with the PUD with the site plan.
Petitioner feels the PUD agreement relates to this site.
Jeff Purdy feels this can be worked out administratively.
James
Mortensen indicates he believes this portion of the meeting is outside of
the rules. Planning
Commission disposition of petition A. Recommendation
regarding rezoning application B.
Recommendation regarding PUD agreement. C. Recommendation
regarding conceptual PUD plan. D. Recommendation
regarding impact assessment. Motion
by Administrative Business: ·
Planners
report presented by LSL Planners ·
Approval
of ·
Member
Discussion.
Mike Archinal addresses the Planning Commission and asks them to
consider whether, in the future, the audience should be informed what the
next steps are for the petitioner, such as in the matter of the cell tower. Meeting
Adjourned at
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