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Planning Commission Meeting
January
9, 2006
Worksession
CALL TO ORDER:
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
DISCUSSION: of Agenda items of the regular meeting of the
Planning Commission
DISCUSSION: of general items
ADJOURNMENT:
Agenda
CALL TO ORDER:
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
CALL TO THE PUBLIC: (Note: The Board will not begin any new
business after 10:00 p.m.)
OPEN PUBLIC HEARING # 1… Discussion of conceptual site plan
review application, project description and conceptual site plan for a
proposed commercial development (Hunter’s Crossing) located at the
southwest corner of Golf Club Road and Grand River Avenue in Section 6
on parcels 11-06-100-028 and 038. Petitioned by Lamb Development
(06-01).
Administrative
Business:
Planners
report presented by LSL Planners
Approval
of November 14, 2005 Planning Commission meeting minutes
Member
Discussion
Adjournment
MINUTES
The work session of the Planning Commission was called to order by
Chairman Pobuda at 6:30 p.m. The following commission members were present,
constituting a quorum for the transaction of business: Dean Tengel, Curt
Brown, James Mortensen, Barbara Figurski, Don Pobuda and Steve Morgan. Also
present were Kelly VanMarter, Township Planning Director, Tesha Humphriss
from Tetra Tech, MPS and Carmine Avantini from L.S.L.
Upon motion of Commissioner Figurski and support by Commissioner
Mortensen, the agenda was approved as presented.
A general discussion was held regarding the agenda item scheduled for
public hearing.
The work session was adjourned at 6:55 p.m.
The regular session of the Planning Commission was called to order by
Chairman Pobuda at 7:00 p.m.
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited and a moment of silence was
observed.
Moved by Commissioner Figurski, supported by Commissioner Mortensen
to approve the Agenda as submitted. Motion carried unanimously.
VanMarter called for a motion to elect officers. Commissioner Mortensen
moves for a slate of Don Pobuda as Chair, Curt Brown as Vice Chair and
Barbara Figurski as Secretary. Support by Commissioner Tengel, Motion
carried unanimously.
Call to the public: Don Green of 751 Pathway, asked for an update on
the Master Plan that was discussed on the meeting of 9/12/05. VanMarter
indicates that a second meeting regarding the Master Plan will be scheduled
soon with workshops to be scheduled with the public in the interim. Green
indicates that he is concerned about the intended height of the buildings at
the Town Center. Chairman Pobuda indicates that a variance can be granted to
waive the regulation of thirty-five feet. Green indicates disappointment
about the monies spent on the Washington DC trip.
Jake Pike addresses the Board. He inquires as to all of the people that
went to Washington. A list was orally provided. He is advised that the cost
involved could be obtained from the Township Manager.
Green addresses the Board regarding the use of monies for the Latson Road
interchange. Chairman Pobuda explains such an issue rightfully should be
heard by the Township Board, rather than the Planning Commission.
OPEN PUBLIC HEARING #1 … Discussion of conceptual site plan review
application, project description and conceptual site plan for a proposed
commercial development (Hunter’s Crossing) located at the southwest corner
of Golf Club Road and Grand River Avenue in Section 6 on parcels
11-06-100-028 and 038. Petitioned by Lamb Development (06-01).
Present are Chris Grzenkowicz of Design, Inc., 2183 Pless Dr., Brighton.
He is project engineer for Hunter’s Crossing. With him are James and Mike
Lamb.
Mr. Grzenkowicz briefs the Board on the general idea of the concept of
the proposed development. In essence, the McDonald’s building would be
destroyed from the ground up. The floor down would be retained and it would
be rebuilt to accommodate a funeral home. The old bank would be destroyed
entirely and replaced with a larger office building. Two of the four
accesses to Grand River would be closed and a third access would be built to
Chilson Road. They have met with Bob Block, County Administrator, and have
been advised the County has no funding to accommodate a cross connection to
Chilson Road at this time, but the parking lot is designed for a future
cross connection.
Storm water drainage is currently flowing to the railroad undetained. The
proposed drainage plan has not been discussed with Drain Commissioner, but
it is designed in accordance with County specifications. If a basin is
required, a section of the parking area would be deleted and they would not
be able to meet parking requirements under the ordinance. They’re
proposing a Storm Tech system, which is an underground detention system.
Parking access has been submitted and is under review of M.D.O.T. at this
time and it is unclear where the twenty foot setback is to be measured from.
Procession plans for funerals shown as far as how it’ll stack in the
parking lot. It’s suggested that thirty-three processional vehicles could
be stacked before parking is affected.
Impervious surface was discussed. Commissioner Mortensen finds that there
will be approximately four times the impervious surface as is there
currently. Commissioner Tengel advises that seventy-five percent is allowed.
Grzenkowicz advises that the current plan totals 75.95% and currently, it’s
61%. Tesha Humphriss indicates the majority of the grass is along Grand
River and that it’s possible to have a detention pond with the remaining
25%, but not usual when the detention pond would be in front.
Traffic issues were addressed. Chairman Pobuda suggests that Grzenkowicz
look into the possibility of an access road from behind Burger King along
the back sides of those properties. Commissioner Morgan suggests that
Grzenkowicz talk with Bob Block again to ascertain whether they would be
allowed to construct ingress/egress on County property. He feels that a
signaled intersection would be preferable. Commissioner Morgan indicates
that he supports the project and is willing to assist in addressing these
concerns with the County.
Jim Lamb explains how funeral processions enter onto major thoroughfares.
Commissioner Mortensen addresses the curb cuts. He indicates that he
cannot support the curb cuts as suggested currently.
Commissioner Figurski indicates her concerns about the impervious surface
issue. She feels it is too much pavement on three acres of land.
Mike Lamb explains a prior plan when the Township asked them to create a
central entrance for both parcels. Jim Lamb explains history of ownership of
the property and surrounding property.
Carmine Avantini indicates that although he believes M.D.O.T. will
approve the removing of two curb cuts, he feels the Township should not
automatically approve it. He believes the site was designed unto itself and
doesn’t take into account the adjacent properties. Ideally, it should
include a shared parking arrangement with the County and include a
pedestrian access.
Tesha Humphriss addresses the Board regarding her concerns with the
detention system. Walgreen’s was very similar to site as it stands now.
Petitioner proposes to detain all water for the 3+ acre site. Above ground
is preferable, but detention of all water is also a preferred thing. The
main concern with it is maintenance. She would like to review what a Storm
Tech system is. Genoa currently has no systems that large. The only place
where it’s been done in Livingston County is in the City of Brighton. The
County’s Drain Commissioner feels strongly against underground drainage.
Humphriss is concerned with how easily an underground system clogs.
Petitioner indicates he can add into the design a swirl concentrator.
Commissioner Mortensen feels it would be wisest to have the Township
maintain it and add the cost into the tax bill. Tesha Humphriss indicates
that ideally, she would want a maintenance schedule, soil borings and outlet
pipe if they pursue underground detention at the site.
VanMarter indicates that she has nothing to report to the Board and
therefore, the next meeting date is unknown at this point.
Upon motion of Commissioner Figurski and support of Commissioner
Mortensen, the minutes of November 14, 2005 were approved as submitted. Motion
carried unanimously.
Commissioner Tengel asks about overpass at Nixon and Latson Roads.
VanMarter suggests that the Governor has pulled the overpass off of the
shelf again.
Commissioner Brown indicates that a series of open workshops regarding
the proposed Town Center would be ideal and would provide much needed
feedback.
Commissioner Figurski indicates that the grounds of the C.V.S. Pharmacy
are filthy. VanMarter indicates that a letter may be written to them asking
them to clean up the site.
VanMarter indicates the Master Plan has been shelved until after the
Planning Commission workshops have been held since the Town Center is in the
Master Plan.
At 8:50 p.m., meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted:
Kristi Cox
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