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Planning Commission Meeting
February 28, 2005
AGENDA
OPEN PUBLIC HEARING # 1… Review of
revised preliminary site plan for a proposed 96-unit condominium
development located at the north-east intersection of Chilson Road and
the Chesapeake & Ohio Railroad line. Sec. 6, petitioned by Bayfield
Homes of Howell, Inc. (PC 05-03)
Planning Commission disposition of petition
A. Recommendation regarding revised preliminary site plan. (dated
2-1-05)
OPEN PUBLIC HEARING # 2 …Review
of a site plan application, environmental impact assessment and site
plan for a proposed retail building located on the south side of Grand
River Avenue at Lawson Drive. Sec. 9, petitioned by Boggio and
Associates. (PC 05-06)
Planning Commission disposition of petition
A. Recommendation regarding impact assessment. (dated 1-11-05)
B. Recommendation regarding site plan. (dated 1-27-05)
MINUTES
The work session of the Planning Commission was
called to order by Chairman Don Pobuda at 6:30 p.m. The following
commission members were present constituting a quorum for transaction of
business: Don Pobuda, James Mortensen, Barbara Figurski, Curt Brown,
Teri Olson, and Mark Snyder. Also present was Michael Archinal, Township
Manager; Jeff Purdy from Langworthy, Strader, LeBlanc & Associates, Inc.
and Tesha Humphriss from Tetra Tech, MPS.
By the end of the work session, there were a few persons in the
audience.
Items scheduled for action during the regular session
of the commission were discussed.
The regular session of the Planning Commission was
called to order by Chairman Don Pobuda at 7:00 p.m.
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited and a moment of
silence was observed.
Moved by Figurski, seconded by Brown, to approve
the Agenda with the following changes:
Public Hearing #2 will be changed as following:
A. Recommendation regarding PUD Amendment
B. Recommendation regarding Impact Assessment
(dated 1/15/05)
C. Recommendation regarding Site Plan (dated
1/27/05)
The motion carried unanimously.
The call to the public was made to discuss items not
on the agenda. There was no response and the call to the public was
closed at 7:04 p.m. Chairman Pobuda noted that the Board will not begin
any new business after 10:00 p.m.
OPEN PUBLIC HEARING #1… Review of revised
preliminary site plan for a proposed 96-unit condominium development
located at the northeast intersection of Chilson Road and the Chesapeake
& Ohio Railroad line. Sec. 6, petitioned by Bayfield Homes of Howell,
Inc. (PC 05-03)
Planning Commission Disposition of Petition
Recommendation regarding revised preliminary Site
Plan (dated 2/1/05)
Mr. David Zimmerman of Bayfield Homes was present to
represent the petition. He stated that they thought the speed limit on
Chilson Road was 35 MPH; however, they were notified by the Road
Commission that it is 55. The Road Commission wanted them to move the
entrance approximately 250 feet toward the railroad tracks. They were
unable to incorporate the boulevard due to this, but feel they are still
maintaining a nice entrance to the development.
Commissioner Mortensen noted the Township Engineer’s
comment #1 in their letter dated February 23rd. They are
recommending that an L or T-type dead-end street at the end of the
roadway near Buildings #1 and #8 be added to allow ease of vehicles
backing out of these buildings. There is currently approximately 8 feet
of road extension near these buildings and Commissioner Mortensen
suggested adding approximately two more feet. Mr. Zimmerman feels this
is a reasonable request and will make that change.
Mr. Purdy reviewed his letter of February 22nd. Since
the boulevard has been taken out the entry drive faces directly into the
garage of Unit #80. This will be the first thing that people see when
they drive into the development. He would like to see this shifted. Mr.
Zimmerman stated there is no room to shift anything on this site. It is
very tight. After a brief discussion, all commissioners agreed to allow
the roadway and Unit #80 to remain where proposed.
Three more canopy trees are required along the
Chilson Road frontage. The petitioner will comply.
Ms. Humphriss stated her only concern was mentioned
by Commissioner Mortensen and this has been resolved.
The call to the public was made at 7:19 p.m. There
was no response and the call to the public was closed.
Moved by Mortensen, seconded by Brown, to approve
the revised preliminary Site Plan dated February 1, 2005 for a proposed
96-unit condominium development located at the northeast intersection of
Chilson Road and the Chesapeake & Ohio Railroad line. Sec. 6, petitioned
by Bayfield Homes of Howell, Inc. with the following conditions:
Approval shall be obtained from the County Drain
Commissioner regarding the proposed relocation of the drain easement and
that the effected properties will be able to have 10 x 14’ wide decks.
The Southwest Gas Storage Company must agree, in
writing, to the site plan with regard to the road and utilities crossing
their easements, with such written documentation being provided at the
time of final Site Plan review.
The Southwest Gas Storage Company must agree, in
writing, to vacate the access easement, which will be replaced by an
easement by the developer to permit the gas company to have access to
its wellhead, and such easement will be recorded by the time of final
Site Plan submittal.
The conditions of the Howell Fire Marshall shall be
met.
The proposed building materials reviewed by the
Planning Commission this evening are acceptable. Brick will be used on
100% of the rear of the buildings and will cover the entire garage
front, with the exception of the garage door, on one garage of every
duplex unit. The balance of the buildings will be vinyl siding.
The wellhead easement will be fenced.
Shrubbery and plantings in the detention pond,
wellhead, and elsewhere will be shown on the final Site Plan and will be
consistent with the Township Ordinance. The Planning Commission grants
the developer to substitute evergreens in 50% of the required greenbelt
plantings.
The conditions noted in the Township Engineer’s
letter of January 4, 2005 will be complied with by the time of
construction plan submittal.
Three canopy trees will be added along Chilson Road.
The roadways in front of Units #1 and #38 will be
extended approximately two feet to provide more backing out space for
vehicles.
The motion carried unanimously.
OPEN PUBLIC HEARING #2… Review of a site plan
application, environmental impact assessment and site plan for a
proposed retail building located on the south side of Grand River Avenue
at Lawson Drive. Sec. 9, petitioned by Boggio and Associates. (PC 05-06)
Planning Commission Disposition of Petition
Recommendation regarding PUD Amendment
Recommendation regarding Impact Assessment (dated
1/15/05)
Recommendation regarding Site Plan (dated 1/27/05)
Mr. Michael Boggio, the architect for the project,
and Mr. Harvey Weiss, the property owner, were present.
Mr. Boggio stated they are proposing to develop on
Outlot #1 of the Genoa 24 development. They would like to build a 6,700
square-foot building with 3,700 square feet of retail space and 3,000
square feet for a coffee shop. They are providing 46 parking spaces, no
access onto Grand River, and two driveways off of Lawson Drive.
He showed a colored site plan, outlining the
landscaping and dumpster location. They are proposing one drive-thru
window for the eastern most tenant of the building.
He showed building material samples and colored
elevations. They are including accent awnings, but they will not be used
for signage. He noted that the Planner suggested a shingled roof as
opposed to the metal roof they were proposing, and they can make that
change if the Planning Commission prefers.
Chairman Pobuda noted that Section 9.5 of the PUD
Agreement states that a total overview of the site is supposed to be
presented each time a project is brought before the Planning Commission.
Mr. Weiss agrees that is the case and it was an oversight on his part.
He does not feel that Lot #1 will affect the overall site.
Chairman Pobuda stated that since the building is
twice the size as the last building approved, they do not have a new
site plan showing if the size of Lot #1 has increased and how it will
appear with regard to the overall site. Mr. Weiss stated there has been
no change in size to Lot #1. The size is the same and the property
division lines have not changed at all.
Mr. Purdy reviewed his letter of February 14, 2005.
He agrees with the proposed building materials;
however, he would like to see a shingled roof. Mr. Boggio showed a
sample of the material that would be used if a shingled roof were
required.
A discussion regarding the architecture of the
building ensued. Chairman Pobuda feels it is a basic brick building and
this is the gateway to the Township. Mr. Weiss respectfully disagreed.
It is a high quality architecture building. Commissioner Brown agrees
with Chairman Pobuda. He feels this building should have three fronts.
Commissioner Mortensen advised the he does not like
the two curb cuts on Lawson Drive and does not feel the drive-thru would
work because the building is twice the size of the previous building
proposed on this site. There is a traffic flow problem on this site. He
is very concerned about that. This is the first issue that needs to be
dealt with.
Mr. Weiss noted that the coffee shop drive-thru
traffic is very different than a fast food restaurant. Commissioner
Brown disagreed. He has seen coffee shop drive-thrus with 20 cars
stacked in the morning hours. Commissioner Mortensen reiterated his
feeling that the drive-thru is the first issues that needs to be
resolved.
Chairman Pobuda noted that currently there are no
drive-thru privileges for this entire PUD. Mr. Weiss stated they
received drive-thru approval with the Krispy Kream restaurant. Chairman
Pobuda noted that this building is larger, there are four tenants, and
that the PUD Amendment for the drive-thru was for Krispy Kream only.
Chairman Pobuda asked the commissioners their opinion
of the drive-thru. Commissioner Brown stated he is not in favor of the
drive-thru. He approve it for the Krispy Kream because it was one
specific use and now this building is incorporating three other tenants
also. Commissioner Snyder agrees. It is a large building to have a
drive-thru. Commissioner Olson agrees also. She does not feel there is
enough room for stacking. Commissioner Figurski agrees and referred to
item #2 of Mr. Purdy’s letter stating the drive-thru does not provide
sufficient stacking spaces. Commissioner Mortensen is not in favor of
the drive-thru for this building.
Ms. Humphriss stated that the circulation for this
site around the building is better with this plan than with the Krispy
Kream proposal because there is only one road around the building;
however, the additional curb cut proposed as well as the stacking for
the drive-thru will cause concerns.
Mr. Boggio showed his plans for the traffic on the
site and how he designed it. The first drive will be in and out and the
second one will be an exit only. It is a one way for the drive-thru and
then the parking is exiting traffic from the drive-thru, which will flow
very well. He noted that 10 spaces for stacking of the drive-thru may be
excessive for this use.
Chairman Pobuda noted that all seven commissioners
present this evening would not approve the drive-thru. Mr. Weiss stated
he would still like to move forward this evening and then discuss the
issue of the drive-thru being denied with the future coffee shop tenant,
Caribou Coffee.
Chairman Pobuda noted that there are a lot of issues
that need to be resolved, such as traffic patterns, the drive-thru, rear
elevation, etc. He suggested that this be tabled this evening. He
advised the petitioner that he would not be approving anything that is
not a one-tenant building as that is what was implied by the petitioner
would be developed when the PUD was originally presented and approved.
Commissioner Mortensen noted that the PUD Agreement does not state that
each building needs to be a one single user. He feels the main issue is
if the Planning Commission would approve a drive-thru on this site. He
does not feel there is enough information with regard to traffic flow,
curb cuts, etc. for a decision to be made.
Mr. Weiss questioned the Commission that if the
traffic flow and stacking issues could be addressed, would a drive-thru
be approved for this location. Commissioners Snyder, Olson, Mortensen,
and Brown answered yes, and Chairman Pobuda and Commissioner Figurski
answered no.
Mr. Archinal reiterated that the multi-tenant outlots
are common and the PUD does not specify that single use buildings need
to be developed. Chairman Pobuda agrees; however, he noted that it was
implied by the petitioner at the beginning that high end buildings and
users were going to occupy these outlots. Mr. Weiss understands the
Chairman’s position; however, he never committed verbally or in writing
that the outlots would only be developed as a single user.
Moved by Figurski, seconded by Mortensen, to
table Agenda Item #2 at the petitioner’s request. The motion carried
unanimously.
Moved by Figurski, seconded by Mortensen, to
table the minutes of February 14, 2005 as they were just received by the
Commissioners this evening. The motion carried unanimously.
Member Discussion
Commissioner Figurski feels that the Crystal Gardens building is very
white and there are a lot of lights. It is very bright. Mr. Purdy stated
the light levels can be checked to ensure that they comply with the
ordinance.
Commissioner Figurski also questioned the material used for the
dumpster enclosure at Lynn’s Carpets. Mr. Archinal will have this
reviewed.
Commissioner Mortensen advised the Commission that the Oak Pointe
water tank was approved; however, the amount of additional trees along
Brighton Road will be determined by Staff.
The meeting adjourned at 8:26 p.m.
Submitted by: Patty Thomas, Recording Secretary
Approved by: Barbara Figurski, Secretary
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